Modern Appearances of Jesus

[00:00:01] Modern Appearances of Jesus by Bart D. Ehrman, read by John Paul Middlesworth. [00:00:07] I sometimes get asked why the Blessed Virgin Mary allegedly appears to people all the time but not Jesus. [00:00:14] As it turns out, we may not hear about them as much, but there are appearances of Jesus that are recorded, some of them quite striking here. I'm not talking about in dreams, but in waking life. [00:00:26] I talk about it in my book How Jesus became God. Harper1 here's what I say there slightly Jesus Appearances in the Modern World Consider the modern appearances of Jesus. Some of these are documented by Philip K. Wiebe in his book Visions of Direct Encounters from the New Testament to Today. [00:00:48] My footnote says I should stress that Wiebe is not a religious fanatic on a mission. He is chair of the Philosophy department at Trinity Western University and is a serious scholar. Still, at the end of the day, he thinks that something transcendent has led to some of the modern visions of Jesus he recounts. In other words, they or some of them are veridical. Wieb narrows 28 case studies which he examines from psychological, neuropsychological, mentalist, and other perspectives. [00:01:17] Included is a vision of Jesus experienced by Hugh Montefiore, a well known New Testament scholar at Cambridge University and later Bishop of Church of England, who converted to Christianity from Judaism at age 16 because he had a vision in which Jesus appeared to him and told him to follow me. [00:01:35] Words that at the time the young Montefiore did not know were drawn from the New Testament. [00:01:40] Of particular interest are instances in which Jesus is said to have appeared to entire groups of people rather than just to an individual. [00:01:48] No case is more intriguing than the last one Wieb recounts in his study, that of Kenneth Logie, a preacher in Pentecostal Holiness church in Oakland, California in in the 1950s. There are two appearances worth detailing. The first occurred in April of 1954. Logie was preaching at an evening service. [00:02:06] In the middle of his sermon, around 9:15pm the door to the church opened up. Jesus walked in and came down the aisle smiling to people on the right and the left. He then walked through, not around, the pulpit, and placed his hand on Logie's shoulder. [00:02:24] Logi understandably collapsed. [00:02:26] Jesus spoke to him in an unknown foreign tongue, and Logi revived enough to reply to him in English. Having understood what was said, Wiebe tells us that 50 people were there and witnessed the event. [00:02:39] Strange things happen. But what happened five years later was even stranger. This one was seen by 200 people who confirmed they had seen it and remarkably, it was captured on film. [00:02:51] The reason it was filmed, Logie later indicated, was because very strange things had been happening in the church and they wanted to document it on 8 millimeter. [00:03:00] Weeb himself saw the film. In 1965, a woman from the congregation was standing to give her testimony when suddenly she disappeared and was replaced by a male figure who was obviously Jesus. He was wearing sandals and a glistening white robe, and he had nail prints in his hand. His hands were dripping with oil. [00:03:20] After several minutes, during which he apparently said nothing, he disappeared and the woman reappeared. [00:03:27] Unfortunately, by the time Weepe had decided to write the book, some 26 years after first seeing the film of the event, the film had disappeared. [00:03:37] Logie claimed it had been stolen. [00:03:39] Still, Weeb was able to find and interview five people who were there and agreed they saw the event happen. [00:03:46] Moreover, there still were surviving photographs of the other odd occurrences in the church. Back in 1959, images of hands, hearts and crosses had started to appear from nowhere on the church walls, with liquid like oil flowing from them and a fragrance being emitted. The walls were checked by a skeptic and there was no natural explanation for these appearances, no hidden windows or the like. [00:04:10] Wieb has seen the photographs. [00:04:12] Skeptics may point out that the time between when these events allegedly happened in the 1950s and Wiebe's written account of them amounts to several decades. And that may indeed raise some suspicions of the accuracy of the witnesses memories. But Wiebe points out that it is about the same amount of time between the life of Jesus and the earliest gospels. [00:04:32] Go figure.