Episode Transcript
[00:00:01] The Intriguing Gospel of Mary Magdalene written by Bart Ehrman, Read by Ken Teutsch this past weekend I hosted an online conference on the relationship of Christian apocrypha to the New Testament canon.
[00:00:19] Apocrypha equals gospels, Acts, epistles and apocalypses that in the end were not included in the New Testament.
[00:00:27] There were a number of terrific talks given, one of them by Nicola Denzi Lewis at Cornell on the Gospel of Mary Magdalene. As she was giving it, I realized that even though many people are intrigued by Mary Magdalene, few actually know much about this gospel.
[00:00:44] I taught it when I did my undergraduate class on ancient Gospels and modern Jesus films and thought I should say some things about it here on the blog.
[00:00:54] It is a second century gospel that does not claim to be written by Mary Magdalene, but she is the main figure in it, the one to whom Jesus gave a secret revelation about ultimate reality, much to the chagrin of the male disciples who can't believe that Jesus would reveal the secrets of the world to a woman instead of them.
[00:01:15] It is a Gnostic gospel, by which I mean that it is based on gnostic myths about how humans are trapped here in their material bodies and need to learn the secrets about themselves, about the world, and about how to escape their physical prisons. All this through the secret knowledge in Greek gnosis that Jesus can provide.
[00:01:37] We have no record of a gospel according to Mary Magdalene from the early church. The book was in fact unknown until its discovery at the end of the 19th century.
[00:01:48] Despite the sensational nature of the find, the book was not widely known for many decades. Its first publication did not come until 1955, a marked contrast to the treatment accorded other gospels discovered in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, such as the Gospel of Thomas, the Gospel of Peter, or the intriguing fragmentary collection of several gospel passages called Papyrus Egerton 2.
[00:02:15] Some of these are of less inherent intrigue than the Gospel of Mary, but they all were published almost immediately upon discovery. Well, Thomas was about a decade later, for various reasons.
[00:02:27] Whether the relative lack of scholarly interest in the Gospel of Mary was related to a the fact that it was a gospel allegedly by or about a woman disciple b the circumstance that it embodied a relatively complex gnostic cosmology rather than a more straightforward narrative, or c something else is hard to determine. But the publication was also delayed by some mind boggling and frustrating events that I explain in my introduction to the work in my book the Other Gospels, co edited with my colleague Zlatko Pleshe. Here is how I describe the book in that the account begins in media res with Jesus responding to a question from the disciples about whether matter will be destroyed or not.
[00:03:16] Jesus reply shows the gnostic orientation of the text from the outset. All things, including especially this material world, will be dissolved into their primal elements. Matter itself is evil, or at least susceptible of evil. In this text, its commingling with spirit is termed adultery and is what leads to sin.
[00:03:37] But all things, Jesus indicates will return to their original state.
[00:03:42] After delivering several exhortations to his disciples, Jesus departs immediately, forgetting what Jesus had just taught them, that this material world is not what ultimately matters. The male disciples are overcome with fear that they may share Jesus fate and also be executed. Mary, almost certainly Mary Magdalene. The Coptic text calls her Mariham M a r I h a m the Greek Mariam M a r r I a m h. Neither spelling was normally used for Jesus Mother then appears and comforts them.
[00:04:20] Peter asks her, as the one the Savior loved more than the other women, to tell them, the male disciples, the revelation Jesus has given to her alone.
[00:04:31] She complies by beginning to describe a vision that she had of Jesus. But that is where the second major lacuna of four pages occurs.
[00:04:40] When the text resumes, Mary is in the middle of a Gnostic discourse describing the ascent of the soul back to its heavenly spiritual home by escaping the powers of the heavenly spheres separating this world from the divine world above.
[00:04:56] These powers in fact, are emblematic of the material trappings of the body, its desires, ignorance and passions.
[00:05:04] Escaping this material prison of the body is to find eternal rest at last.
[00:05:10] When Mary has finished relating this revelation, a dispute breaks out among the male disciples who wonder if it is possible that Jesus would reveal his truths to a woman.
[00:05:22] Here is what the conclusion of the account actually says, as translated in our book by Zlatko from the When Mary said these things, she fell silent as though the Savior had spoken to her up to this point. Now Andrew responded and said to his brothers, say what you will about what she has said, but I do not believe that the Savior said these things, for these teachings are strange thoughts indeed.
[00:05:47] Peter replied and spoke about these things as he asked them about the Savior. Did he really speak with a woman secretly from us? Not openly? Should we turn about too and all listen to her? Did he choose her over us?
[00:06:03] Then Mary wept and said to Peter, my brother Peter, what are you thinking? Do you think that I have thought up these things alone in my heart? Or that I am telling lies about the Savior?
[00:06:16] Levi responded and said to Peter, peter, you are always angry. Now I see you disputing with this woman like the adversaries? If the Saviour made her worthy, who are you then for your part to cast her aside? Surely the Savior knows her full well. That is why he has loved her more than us. Let us rather be ashamed and put on the perfect human and bring it forth for ourselves, just as he commanded us. And let us preach the Gospel, laying down no rule or law other than what the Savior has spoken.
[00:06:46] When Levi said these things, they began to go out to teach and proclaim.
[00:06:52] I find the entire account terrifically interesting, both the Gnostic revelation and the conclusion.
[00:06:58] In terms of the latter, it's interesting that Peter and Mary are elsewhere thought of as competitors in the early Christian tradition.
[00:07:06] I'll say more about that in the next post.
